We've been having more fore fun with aikido ura waza . We went over what's covered in the KUBK forums from last years shochugeiko in regard to gyakugamae ate and ushiro ate ; gedan ate, we sort of covered when we encountered it with shomen ate , and we looked at oshi taoshi conditions with aigamae ate . Which brought us to ude gaeshi, #7. Now, in the traditional Tomiki ryu randori no kata no ura waza some of the techniques from the 17 (randori no kata) are omitted, namely, 7, 9, 10, 11, 15, 16 and 17. Frankly, I have no idea why (in fact, for various reasons, our dojo has only been looking at this kata for a very short period of time). But, that doesn't stop us from experimenting! So on we went with ude gaeshi . With this one, we utilized the same turning of the outside foot as we did in our particular version of the counter to oshi taoshi, but with two variations: 1) A large, extending turning motion. As uke begins to try and coil your arm, you basically do a #1 release...